40

Does the Qur’an Teach Violence?

VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
Rating: 3.8/5 (109 votes cast)

By Anonymous

 

Q: Does Islam really teach peace? I am a Christian and I do not hate Muslims, but I read in the Qur’an verses like, “And slay them wherever ye catch them..” (2:191) and “..But if they turn away, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.” (4:89). How can a peaceful religion teach these things? How do you explain these verses. These quotations from your Holy Book do really make us very uneasy with your faith. I would appreciate your reply.

 

A: Thank you very much for your kind words that you do not hate Muslims. Hate is not good for any person. I want to assure you that we Muslims also do not hate non-Muslims, be they Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhist or followers of any religion or no religion. Our religions does not allow killing any innocent person regardless of his or her religion. The life of all human beings is sacrosanct according to the teachings of the Qur’an and the guidance of our blessed Prophet Muhammad -peace be upon him and upon all the Prophets and Messengers of Allah.

The Qur’an says about the prohibition of murder:

 

وَلاَ تَقْتُلُوا النَّفْسَ الَّتِي حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ إِلاَّ بِالْحَقِّ ذَلِكُمْ وَصَّاكُمْ بِهِ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ

“..Take not life, which Allah hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus does He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.” (al-An’am 6:151)

and Allah says in the Qur’an:

 

وَلاَ تَقْتُلُوا النَّفْسَ الَّتِي حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ إِلاَّ بِالْحَقِّ وَمَنْ قُتِلَ مَظْلُومًا فَقَدْ جَعَلْنَا لِوَلِيِّهِ سُلْطَانًا فَلاَ يُسْرِفْ فِي الْقَتْلِ إِنَّهُ كَانَ مَنصُورًا

“Nor take life – which Allah has made sacred – except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, We have given his heir authority (to demand Qisas or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the law)” (al-Isra’ 17:33)

According to the Qur’an, killing any person without a just cause is as big a sin as killing the whole humanity and saving the life of one person is as good deed as saving the whole humanity. (See al-Ma’idah 5:32)

However, your question is valid then how come the Qur’an says:

“kill them wherever you find them…”as it is mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah 2:191 and Surah al-Nisa’ 4:89. The answer is simple and that is you should read these verses in their textual and historical context. You should read the whole verse and it is better that you read few verses before and few after. Read the full text and see what is said:

وَقَاتِلُوا فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ الَّذِينَ يُقَاتِلُونَكُمْ وَلاَ تَعْتَدُوا إِنَّ اللَّهَ لاَ يُحِبُّ الْمُعْتَدِينَ وَاقْتُلُوهُمْ حَيْثُ ثَقِفْتُمُوهُمْ وَأَخْرِجُوهُمْ مِنْ حَيْثُ أَخْرَجُوكُمْ وَالْفِتْنَةُ أَشَدُّ مِنْ الْقَتْلِ وَلاَ تُقَاتِلُوهُمْ عِنْدَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ حَتَّى يُقَاتِلُوكُمْ فِيهِ فَإِنْ قَاتَلُوكُمْ فَاقْتُلُوهُمْ كَذَلِكَ جَزَاءُ الْكَافِرِينَ فَإِنْ انتَهَوْا فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَحِيمٌ وَقَاتِلُوهُمْ حَتَّى لاَ تَكُونَ فِتْنَةٌ وَيَكُونَ الدِّينُ لِلَّهِ فَإِنْ انتَهَوْا فَلاَ عُدْوَانَ إِلاَّ عَلَى الظَّالِمِينَ الشَّهْرُ الْحَرَامُ بِالشَّهْرِ الْحَرَامِ وَالْحُرُمَاتُ قِصَاصٌ فَمَنْ اعْتَدَى عَلَيْكُمْ فَاعْتَدُوا عَلَيْهِ بِمِثْلِ مَا اعْتَدَى عَلَيْكُمْ وَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَاعْلَمُوا أَنَّ اللَّهَ مَعَ الْمُتَّقِينَ

“Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, kill them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear Allah, and know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves.” (al-Baqarah 2:190-194)

For your second quotation also read the full text:

وَدُّوا لَوْ تَكْفُرُونَ كَمَا كَفَرُوا فَتَكُونُونَ سَوَاءً فَلاَ تَتَّخِذُوا مِنْهُمْ أَوْلِيَاءَ حَتَّى يُهَاجِرُوا فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ فَإِنْ تَوَلَّوْا فَخُذُوهُمْ وَاقْتُلُوهُمْ حَيْثُ وَجَدْتُمُوهُمْ وَلاَ تَتَّخِذُوا مِنْهُمْ وَلِيًّا وَلاَ نَصِيرًا إِلاَّ الَّذِينَ يَصِلُونَ إِلَى قَوْمٍ بَيْنَكُمْ وَبَيْنَهُمْ مِيثَاقٌ أَوْ جَاءُوكُمْ حَصِرَتْ صُدُورُهُمْ أَنْ يُقَاتِلُوكُمْ أَوْ يُقَاتِلُوا قَوْمَهُمْ وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ لَسَلَّطَهُمْ عَلَيْكُمْ فَلَقَاتَلُوكُمْ فَإِنْ اعْتَزَلُوكُمْ فَلَمْ يُقَاتِلُوكُمْ وَأَلْقَوْا إِلَيْكُمْ السَّلَمَ فَمَا جَعَلَ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ عَلَيْهِمْ سَبِيلاً سَتَجِدُونَ آخَرِينَ يُرِيدُونَ أَنْ يَأْمَنُوكُمْ وَيَأْمَنُوا قَوْمَهُمْ كُلَّ مَا رُدُّوا إِلَى الْفِتْنَةِ أُرْكِسُوا فِيهَا فَإِنْ لَمْ يَعْتَزِلُوكُمْ وَيُلْقُوا إِلَيْكُمْ السَّلَمَ وَيَكُفُّوا أَيْدِيَهُمْ فَخُذُوهُمْ وَاقْتُلُوهُمْ حَيْثُ ثَقِفْتُمُوهُمْ وَأُوْلَئِكُمْ جَعَلْنَا لَكُمْ عَلَيْهِمْ سُلْطَانًا مُبِينًا

“They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): so take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (from what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks. Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (Of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace, then Allah hath opened no way for you (to war against them). Others you will find that wish to gain your confidence as well as that of their people: every time they are sent back to temptation, they succumb thereto; if they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever ye get them; in their case We have provided you with a clear argument against them. (Al-Nisa’ 4:89-91)

Now tell me honestly, do these verses give a free permission to kill any one any where? These verses were revealed by Allah to Prophet Muhammad (Salla Allah Ta’ala Alaihi Wa Salam) at the time when Muslims were attacked by the non-Muslims of Makkah on a regular basis. They were frightening the Muslim community of Madinah. One may say using the contemporary jargon that there were constant terrorist attacks on Madinah and in this situation Muslims were given permission to fight back the “terrorist”. These verses are not a permission for “terrorism” but they are a warning against the “terrorists.” But even in these warnings you can see how much restraint and care is emphasized.

It is important that we study the religious texts in their proper context. When these texts are not read in their proper textual and historical contexts they are manipulated and distorted. It is true that some Muslims manipulate these verses for their own goals. But this is not only with Islamic texts, it is also true with the texts of other religions. I can quote dozens of verses from the Bible which seem very violent, if taken out from their historical context. These Biblical texts have been used by many violent Jewish and Christian groups. Crusaders used them against Muslims and Jews. Nazis used them against Jews. Recently Serbian Christians used them against Bosnian Muslims. Zionists are using them regularly against Palestinians.

Let me mention just a few verses from the Old Testament and New Testament and tell me what do you say about them:

“When the LORD your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and stronger than you. And when the LORD your God delivers them before you and you defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. (Deutronomy 7:1-2)

“When you approach a city to fight against it, you shall offer it terms of peace. If it agrees to make peace with you and opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall become your forced labor and shall serve you. However, if it does not make peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. When the LORD your God gives it into your hand, you shall strike all the men in it with the edge of the sword. Only the women and the children and the animals and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourself; and you shall use the spoil of your enemies which the LORD your God has given you… Only in the cities of these peoples that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes (Deutronomy 20:10-17)

Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, sparefor yourselves. (Numbers 31:17-18)

Even in the New Testament we read the following statement attributed to Jesus saying to his disciples:

“I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence. (Luke 19:26-27)

Source: http://www.pakistanlink.com/religion/2001/1012.html

See this article on the concept of Just War in the Qur’an.

For more details about the conceptsof “jihad,” “war,” and “peace” in the Qur’an, see Jihad in the Qur’an.

Does the Qur'an Teach Violence?, 3.8 out of 5 based on 109 ratings

Admin

40 Comments

  1. Thank you so much for posting these readings from two different holy books. It is very interesting to see as I am neither Muslim nor Christian. Actually, this further supports my personal choice to not follow any religious text.

    I know there are many people who find comfort and wisdom by reading such books, and for many modern day people, they are able to use the positive rather than the negative parts of these texts to help them live productive and moral lives in their communities. However, I cannot support any religion that is tied to violence or killing for ANY reason. I personally do not believe slavery, oppression, or killing in the name of any god or religion is or was ever justified. The ONLY case I feel that violence is acceptable, is NOT for retaliation, vengeance or justice, but in an IMMEDIATE self-defence situation. I feel it in my soul and in my heart. Negativity breeds more negativity.

    My heart hangs heavy for those that do not realize this on their own. I hope I am not alive to see the end of the world, destroyed by human religion. Sadly, we all know this is probably how it’s going to end, but strangely, many religious people and especially extremists are actually excited about it. I have religious friends and family members, and I love them dearly. It is just something that I do not feel I can ever personally understand. But thank you very much for posting.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +73 (from 165 votes)
    • You seemed to have completely missed the point of this post then. On one hand you thank the author for writing this yet you completely neglect what he is saying. You talk about personally not believing in slavery, oppression, and killing in the name of any god or religion.

      This is good that you believe that because it’s also against what is said in the Bible. I can’t speak for the Qur’an because I don’t study it very often. As the author was stating, “It is important that we study the religious texts in their proper context. When these texts are not read in their proper textual and historical contexts they are manipulated and distorted.”

      Your comments about slavery, oppression, and killing are completely taken out of context. I’m not commenting on this matter to try and upset you, and I hope that I do not.

      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +18 (from 96 votes)
  2. The problem with using Deutronomy 7:1-2, Deutronomy 20:10-17, and Numbers 31:17-18 to support your argument is that you have made one of the most basic hermeneutical (interpretive) errors. These verses describe a specific scenario, when Israel was under a divine theocracy. They reflect the instructions that God gave to Israel in order to fulfill a covenant promise at a specific time and for a specific reason. These verses are DESCRIPTIVE, not PRESCRIPTIVE. For example, when any of the gospels relate Jesus Christ’s resurrection, they are describing what happened in history, not prescribing that every reader should be dead in a tomb for three days and then be resurrected. Describing God’s instructions in a particular historical context is not the same as simply condoning violence of any kind. The reason why God’s commands are shocking to a contemporary audience is because we fail to understand that the people God was commanding to be slain were so evil and wicked that obliterating them was better for humanity in the long run than continuing to allow them to practice human sacrifice, infanticide, bestiality, and a number of other practices which make them contemptible given the moral law that every human has planted in his or her conscience.

    In reference to the verse quoted from Luke 19:26-27, you have revealed a serious double standard on your part. If you read the preceding paragraph, Jesus is clearly sharing a parable, or allegorical story which illustrates a moral truth. Parables are not to be interpreted literally but are symbolic in nature. Jesus is quoting the master described in the parable- Jesus Himself did not command anyone to be brought before Him and slaughtered. In fact, in every Biblical description of Jesus’ arrest when Peter cuts off a guard’s ear, Jesus immediately commands that the violence cease, and instantly heals the guard who has been injured. Would a man who commands violence allow himself to be led to his own crucifixion without even so much as verbal resistance? Jesus was peaceful. If you are going to insist that the verses from the Koran must be interpreted in their context, you cannot fail to mention an entire preceding and explanatory paragraph which would prevent a quote by Jesus from condoning violence. Sharing 2 short verses cannot possibly deliver a proper context.

    As for your statement that all religious texts can be used to inspire violence, you are correct. Human beings are selfish in nature and will interpret however they want to achieve their own ends. Religious texts which do not actually condone violence can be used to condone violence just like a golf club can be used as a baseball bat. I think the important distinction lies in how difficult it is for a person to read violence into a text, and in this case the burden of proof lies upon the adherents of Islam to explain why I can use a simple google search to discover literally thousands of examples of Islamic violence in the past year alone. Search as much as you want for examples of Christian groups sinning by committing violence, but I guarantee that the number of incidents where Islamic people committed violence is vastly unproportional. If the Koran does in fact promote peace, why do so many people misinterpret those verses and use them to try and justify violent acts?

    NATO soldiers accidently burn a Koran, the locals in Afghanistan riot and destroy their own buildings.

    The Pope has to apologize for calling Islam a violent faith because so many Muslims threaten to kill him as a result.

    One of your verses prohibits fighting in a Sacred Mosque unless it is first attacked, yet I read of suicide bombers blowing up women and children in mosques all the time. I can guess why- these Korannic verses do not give a standard of what makes a mosque a sacred one. They do not clearly define what sort of initial hostility justifies violent resistance. Clearly, groups like the Taliban simply blow up Mosques that do not teach what they believe- the Muslim is totally free to decide whether or not a Mosque is “sacred” before he or she attacks it. The Muslim is free to take the word of an insane dictator that a country who has no military presence in Iraq, Iran, or Afghanistan is somehow hostile to the Muslim way of life. Once they come to this conclusion, I suppose many have interpreted the Koran to say that it is then justifiable to hijack planes and fly them into the world trade centers, killing thousands of civilians in the name of Allah.

    How can so many misinterpret these verses if they are so clear within their proper context? If Islam is the religion of peace, why is there such a large schism between Sunni, Shi’ite, and other clans? Islam’s beginning of rapid expansion was a result of violence. Muhammad’s opposition had two options: convert to Islam or die. Various reliable historical documents attest to this.

    I do not hate Muslims. I know that God loves every person, because every person is made in His image, Muslims included. I have Muslim friends who are extremely kind and decent people who are disgusted by the acts of extremists and terrorists. The fact of the matter is violent Christians are a tiny minority. Violent adherents to Islam can be found in considerable number in basically every single country which is predominantly Muslim. If the Koran is so clear on peace, why is there so much misinterpretation?

    I appreciate your willingness to share your faith with those who know little about it. Ignorance breeds contempt, to be sure. I am not claiming to have as much knowledge about the Koran as you, I can see that you do not have much knowledge about the Bible either. What I am saying is that based on this post I am not at all convinced that Islam is a religion of peace at all, much less “THE” religion of peace.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +270 (from 348 votes)
  3. Krystal,

    Upon what basis can you claim that any of those things are wrong? If God does not exist, you claiming that slavery or killing or oppression is wrong has the same amount of truth behind it as you saying “blue is the prettiest color” or “steak is the most delicious food in the world.” Do you see the difference between making a subjective claim (true only for the individual) and making an objective claim (such as, “gravity exists.”)? without an objective, universal standard you have no basis on which to claim anything is morally right or wrong. If you and your friend agree that steak is the best food, does that make it any more true? What if two or three friends agree? What if a million people agree that steak is the best food? At what point does a person’s opinion turn into objective moral truth?

    You have no basis upon which to reject any religion as wrong unless you have an objective standard of morality, a standard of right and wrong decided upon by God and revealed to humans through His word. If God does not exist, then you are forced to argue either that there is no such thing as right or wrong, or that the standard of morality is created by humans who are in agreement. If you are going to argue the latter, you must admit that whoever has the bigger guns is who decides what is right and wrong. A logical implication of this is that if Hitler had won WWII it would have meant that the Nazis were morally correct in their systematic killing of millions. This would be an absurd argument to defend.

    So basically I am saying that without a theistic religion (such as Christianity, Islam, or Judaism) you have no standard upon which to base your claims that any religion which “is tied to violence or killing for ANY reason” should not be supported. If God does not exist, when we die we become worm food. If this is the case, what does it matter how humans act while they are on earth? Without God we are nothing but biological clockwork, and if I were to claim that it is good to rape children (which obviously I would never claim) I would be just as correct as you saying it is wrong to kill.

    I encourage you to pursue truth instead of making it up yourself.

    Finally, remember that the man Jesus Christ literally came to earth 2000 years ago. He claimed to be God, and proved His claim to be true by living a perfect and sinless life, and dying a horrific death on your behalf without a word of protest. Jesus was perfect for us, because he knew that none of us can ever be perfect or earn our way to heaven. If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, his righteousness will be counted as your righteousness and you will live forever in paradise with your loving Savior. C.S. Lewis said “I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.” I agree with him and I hope that you consider these things before dismissing religion.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +37 (from 119 votes)
    • My dear friend,

      What are you talking about, the Qur’an never tought us to kill innocent people.
      It is stated very clearly if you kill an innocent person you are killing the whole humanity..

      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +1 (from 79 votes)
    • Are you kidding me you say if there is no god or afterlife then why is there reason to do good on earth?? Most humans whether they believe in a God or not have a sense of right and wrong. The reason someone who doesn’t believe in a God we choose to do the right thing is because they must live with there decisions. People have morals and love each other so they choose the right path. So someone that believes in God only chooses the right thing for salvation or reward? Give me a break

      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +16 (from 66 votes)
  4. @Andrew

    i am not a religious person and am actually quite opposed to it. just thought id comment regarding your statement that there is no universal standard of morality without religion and i think you are very true on this. i do not believe that we are born with an innate set of morals and i think that our morales are decided by the environment we are bought up in. for example i was bought up in a loving household where i was taught to be nice to everyone and so thats what i believe is the right thing to do. however a person who is raised in a gang type environment will freely use violence because he was brought up being told that violence is ok. so after saying this suddenly it seems like a great idea to follow religion as everyone in the world would have the same set of morales and would know what is right and wrong.

    but let me ask you 1 question, what religion is the right one?? all religions teach different things and what makes christianity (im assuming your christian) more correct than any other religion, and what makes any other religion more morally correct than christianity?? now we are back to the point you made earlier where humans must collectively agree which religion is right, which has just as much prominence as the human race deciding what is the best colour or best food. so no matter what religion is chosen there will be no basis to decide wether it is right or wrong because it is humans that are choosing it. and you will claim that christianity is the right faith but what if you were born in a middle eastern country and from birth your parents indoctrinated you into the islamic faith you would undoubtedly grow up believing that islam was without a doubt the most correct religion.

    so the point im trying to make is there is no universal standard for religion either, throughout the ages there have been thousands of gods that humanity has worshipped and who are we to decide which gods are worth following and which arent?? for all we know zeus and apollo are still up in the sky casting lightning bolts down on us everytime there is a thunderstorm.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +9 (from 67 votes)
  5. I’m a bit confuse myself, it seems the more I learn and read the more questionsI have.Is it possible In the future will only have one religion.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: -1 (from 13 votes)
  6. @Andrew

    I am a Christian. However, I very deeply respect Islam and its true followers. Therefore, I want to help explain some of the original points made by the person who answered this question and explain how some of the things you said in your post don’t accurately reflect Islam. Please keep in mind that none of this is meant as an attack, I merely want to help explain what the author was trying to do and explain some of the points you brought up.

    I don’t think that the author revealed a double standard; rather, I think they merely “turned the tables.” The Qur’an verses that were originally quoted were taken vastly out of context. In answering this question, the author took the same exact scenario (taking scripture out of context), and applied it to the Bible instead of the Qur’an. It wasn’t meant as an attack against Jesus (in fact, Islam holds Jesus in very high regards), or any other religious figures. You’re right when you say “2 short verses cannot possibly deliver a proper context.” That was the author’s entire point.

    The verses from the Qur’an that were quoted in the question are frequently taken out of context, and therefore lose all of the original meaning they were supposed to contain. Many of the verses in the Qur’an are meant to be taken in historical context, much like similar verses in the Bible. The author was only making a comparison between the Qur’an and the Bible, and showing that it’s very easy to lose the original meaning of a verse if you don’t have its context.

    As far as violent acts committed by Muslims, there’s more to this situation than meets the eye. The Qur’an only permits violence in self defense. Period. These “alternate interpretations” of the Qur’an aren’t made by qualified religious scholars, whom Muslims have relied upon for centuries to interpret scripture. Often, it is a dictator or other leader who claims that their actions are justified under the Qur’an to gather support. However, any qualified interpretation would prove that these statements aren’t true.

    Furthermore, pious Muslims have frequently argued that terrorists and suicide bombers aren’t truly Muslims because none of their actions reflect true Islamic values. In violating one of the Qur’an’s most important values (respecting the value of human life), they have committed one of the gravest of sins, which holds true regardless of which religion you practice.

    Concerning the “standard of what makes a mosque a sacred one”: every mosque is sacred. They don’t clarify because it doesn’t matter if it’s the Hagia Sofia in Istanbul or a makeshift gathering place in a one-car garage; all mosques are sacred. There is no misinterpreting this. Anybody who desecrates any mosque anywhere in the world is destroying a sacred place.

    Once again, suicide bombers aren’t following the teachings of Islam. Suicide itself is prohibited by the Qur’an, so just the act of taking your own life shows that you aren’t following the teachings of the Qur’an, let alone the fact that you’re desecrating a sacred place and killing countless others with you.

    The “insane dictators” are exactly that: insane. They have no rights to declare Jihad (striving to improve or protect Islam) without first consulting true religious scholars. In fact, the majority of religious scholars (and ordinary Muslims!) would strongly disagree with all terrorist acts that are committed in the name of Jihad, because it isn’t legitimate Jihad. Not a single one of these acts of terrorism are representative of the teachings of the Qur’an in the slightest way.

    When Muhammad expanded his religion, he allowed all the peoples he conquered to continue to practice their own religion. In fact, the Qur’an specifically states that Islam shouldn’t ever be forced on somebody, and that everybody is free to practice their own religion. Muslims are even permitted to marry Christians and Jews, because they follow a divine scripture from God (by the way, Allah is just the Arabic word for God, much like Dieu is the French word for God and Dios is the Spanish word for God, and Christians who speak Arabic call God Allah. Muslims worship the same God that Christians and Jews do.). The government taxed non-Muslims more heavily, to be sure, but that’s a far cry from “convert or die”.

    The disagreements between Sunnis and Shi’ites are caused almost entirely by the governments in charge of different nations. The religion itself doesn’t cause any true dispute between them, and in fact, you can often find Sunnis and Shi’ites praying in the same mosques in the United States and other nations whose governments aren’t in conflict with each other.

    Lastly, your image of a “violent adherent to Islam” is completely nonexistent. You cannot, (I repeat, cannot,) be an adherent AND violent. The two simply don’t go hand-in-hand. If you truly practice Islam, you are peaceful, you respect human life, you donate to charity, you help the less fortunate, and you CERTAINLY don’t commit acts of terror.

    Anybody who commits violence in the name of Islam makes a mockery of that which they claim to fight for.

    Again, I merely wanted to try to clear up some of the common misconceptions about Islam that are prevalent in the United States. Please don’t take any of this as personally directed at you; I only aim to help the world be more knowledgeable about Islam.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +115 (from 171 votes)
    • @ Ben
      We need more people like you on both sides i.e Muslims and Christians to help understand each other better.

      I am a British Muslim and feel that a larger percentage of the British Christian population understand Islam and are more open to seeing the true religion rather than judging from what is being constantly played in the media.

      Not me or any one I know from my vast circle of Muslim friends and family have ever been taught to hate non Muslims.

      I admit,Islam is currently associated with violence. It is not the religion but the so called ‘followers’ who are the cause of this.

      Once again,as history has shown in the past religion is being used for political gain.

      I know strict Muslims,who may even have some sort of grudge against Israel or the U.S(based on their views of foreign policies of these countries) but would never ever dare take violent action in any form. Not for fear of anything else but fear of compromising their faith.

      Islam forbids us to murder or commit suicide than how oh how can one justify the murder of humans (Christians,Jews and Muslims)
      People carrying out attacks in mosques during the month of Ramadan killing Muslims??? How can they be called Muslim??

      Sometimes I really do feel like we’re being set up.

      Anyhow,just wanted to thank you for your understanding and explanation.

      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +49 (from 65 votes)
    • I wish from the bottom of my heart to see more people like you Ben in all religions. I would like to add one more thing, Allah cleares any doubts about being fair and friendly to non muslims”لا ينهاكم الله عن الذين لم يقاتلوكم فى الدين ولم يخرجوكم من دياركم, أن تبروهم و تقسطوا اليهم, و الله يحب المقسطين” الممتحنة اّية 8
      The translation: Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.

      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +26 (from 32 votes)
  7. Sahih Bukhari,(Book #3, Hadith #104), “Narrated Said: Abu Shuraih said, “When ‘Amr bin Said was sending the troops to Mecca (to fight ‘Abdullah bin Az-Zubair) I said to him,’O chief! Allow me to tell you what the Prophet said on the day following the conquests of Mecca. My ears heard and my heart comprehended, and I saw him with my own eyes, when he said it. He glorified and praised Allah and then said, “Allah and not the people has made Mecca a sanctuary. SO ANYBODY WHO HAS BELIEF IN ALLAH AND THE LAST DAY (i.e. a muslim) SHOULD NEITHER SHED BLOOD IN IT NOR CUT DOWN TREES. If anybody argues that fighting is allowed in Mecca as Allah’s Apostle did fight (in Mecca), tell him that ALLAH GAVE PERMISSION TO HIS APOSTLE, BUT HE DID NOT GIVE IT TO YOU….”

    The phrase, So anybody who has believe in Allah and the last day (i.e. a muslim) should neither shed blood in it nor cut down trees, in the above extract conveys a clear message that Allah forbids muslims to be involved in violence or fighting or shedding blood or even cutting trees.

    The phrase, Allah gave permission only to his apostles but he did not give it to you, in the above extract implies that Allah only gave permission to his apostles instead of to us. As Allah does not permit muslims to fight and to shed blood except to his apostles, there should not be any reason for muslims today to fight or shed blood. As Allah gave permission only to his apostles but not unto us, it implies that the word, fight, in the book of Quran is meant only for Prophet Muhamad and the apostles instead of to muslim people nowadays.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +4 (from 18 votes)
  8. Israel has been found favour by Allah and yet muslims have fought against them in the past:
    Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #40, “O Children of ISRAEL! Remember My Favour which I bestowed upon you…”
    Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #47, “O Children of ISRAEL!…”
    Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #122, “O Children of ISRAEL! Remember My Favour which I bestowed upon you and that I preferred you to the ‘Alamin [mankind and jinn (of your time-period, in the past)].”
    The paragraph below even conveys the message that Allah even ordained children of Israel not to do this or that:
    Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #32, “Because of that We ordained for the CHILDREN OF ISRAEL that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land – it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind…”
    The above verses show that Allah was not against Israel. A question has to be raised: Should muslims be against non-muslim people?

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: -4 (from 12 votes)
  9. Sahih Bukhari, Book #31, Hadith #222 ” Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas: The Prophet came to Medina and saw the Jews fasting on the day of Ashura. He asked them about that. They replied,“This is a good day, the day on which ALLAH RESCUED BANI ISRAEL from their enemy. So, Moses fasted this day.” The Prophet said,“We have more claim over Moses than you.” So, the Prophet fasted on that day and ordered (the Muslims) to fast (on that day). The phrase, Allah rescued Bani Israel, as mentioned above implies that Allah even cared about Israel. Muslim terrorists have acted adversely to have hatred against Israel in this modern days. Would the interpretation of the word, fight, be found in everywhere in the book of Quran to be interpreted as to fight against non-muslims? Or else, Allah would not have rescued Israel instead Allah would have slaughtered them.

    Ad-Dukhan, Chapter #44, Verse #30, “And indeed We saved the Children of israel from the humiliating torment:”

    If all the word, fight, in the Holy Quran is meant to demand muslims to slaughter non-muslims, there should not be any reason for muslims to rescue the children of Israel as mentioned above?

    From the above, it gives the ironical proof that the interpretation from muslim terrorists to treat the word, fight, as fighting against non-muslims is erroneous or else Allah would call his apostles to fight against the children of Israel instead of saving them.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: -5 (from 11 votes)
  10. Sahih Bukhari, Book #52, Hadith #287, “Narrated ‘Amr bin Maimun: Umar (after he was stabbed), instructed (his would-be-successor) saying, “I urge him (i.e. the new Caliph) TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE NON-MUSLIMS WHO ARE UNDER THE PROTECTION OF ALLAH and His Apostle in that he should observe the convention agreed upon with them, and fight on their behalf (to secure their safety) and he should not over-tax them beyond their capability.” The extracted phrase, to take care of those non-muslims who are under the protection of Allah, implies that there are non-muslims that are under the protection of Allah. As there are non-muslims that are under the protection of Allah, how could the word, fight, in Quran to be interpreted as fighting against non-muslims or else all non-muslims would be under the attack of Allah instead of protecting them.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: -2 (from 10 votes)
  11. Consider carefully below on how moderate muslims interprete Holy Quran and you would discover their teaching is extremely different from those that are extremists:

    Quran never teaches muslims bad to create violence, havoc, jihad and etc. in the society. Muslim extremists have mis-interpreted the word, fight, in Quran so as to suit their taste to created havoc in the society.

    An-Nisa, Chapter #4, verse #90 in Mohsin Khan translation, “…So if they withdraw from you, and fight not against you, and offer you peace, then Allah has opened no way for you against them.” This verse has guided the fact that muslims should be in the defensive role in fighting. Or in other words, if the opponents cease in fighting with muslims, they should not retaliate.

    Even though the word, fight, is mentioned in the Quran and An-Nisa, Chapter #4, verse 90 has restricted fighting to be in defensive role, Allah only granted his permission to fight to apostles instead of to muslims people nowadays. Other than his apostles, he demands them not to shed blood or even cutting down trees as mentioned in Sahih Bukhari,(Book #3, Hadith #104), “”(that)…SO ANYBODY WHO HAS BELIEF IN ALLAH AND THE LAST DAY (i.e. a muslim) SHOULD NEITHER SHED BLOOD IN IT NOR CUT DOWN TREES…ALLAH GAVE PERMISSION TO HIS APOSTLE, BUT HE DID NOT GIVE IT TO YOU….”

    Let’s conclude the right teaching of Quran. No doubts the Quran mentions the word, fight, numerously, it has no value nowadays since the word, fight, could only be applicable to his apostles instead of to muslim people nowadays. Not only that, the word, fight, for the apostles in the past was only meant for defensive role.

    Quran is never to be against non-muslims or else why Allah should protect some of them as indicated in Sahih Bukhari, Book #52, Hadith #287.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: -4 (from 8 votes)
  12. All,

    Thanks for all the respectful responses to my post! Certainly both sides can appreciate the other’s views more when insults are left out of the conversation.
    Alex, you are correct in that I was wrong to accuse the original poster of a double standard, I realized this shortly after my post was published. We were indeed making a similar point, but mine is different in that I am taking the claim an additional step further. I truly believe through my study of history and the Qu’ran that the verses taken out of context are simply easier to take out of context than those of the Bible. A short look on Google shows the vast prevalence of violent acts by self-professed Muslims compared to all major worldviews except atheism. This does not necessarily disprove any veracity of the Islamic faith, but does rouse my suspicions. Why do so many misinterpret Muhammad’s teachings? Why does frequent misinterpretation result in violence? In American Christianity misinterpretation tends to result in differing theological opinions, not suicide bombings, hijackings, and ransoms.

    Additionally, you misunderstand my point about there being no objective moral standard without religion. This claim does not mean that all humans must agree on one religion to make the world a morally acceptable place. It means that there are two moral possibilities: either there is no such thing as a true right and wrong, or there is. If God exists, absolute moral standards exist. If He does not, no human act could actually be wrong or result in eternal judgment after physical death. If you feel in your heart that some things are truly right, such as assisting those in need and protecting innocent human life, or you believe that some things are wrong such as rape or murder, then God has implanted part of his law into your heart because you are made in His image. You are correct that all religions have different claims. If you think it is possible that God exists and one of these religions could be correct, you must examine their claims yourself and make your best educated guess, knowing all along that there is no way to indisputably prove OR disprove the existence of God. We must all choose the belief we know is most likely to be true. To refuse to decide (agnosticism) is an implied negative- no acknowledgement of God may as well be an outright rejection of his existence.

    Through my education I have studied philosophy and world religions. We could argue all day long, everyone in the world could try to dispute each of my claims, but to be concise: Christianity is more internally coherent than any other worldview. The original Greek and Hebrew manuscripts which make up the Bible have been accurately preserved either by oral tradition or vast copies to compare. When interpreted as a whole from the first book of the Bible to the last, there is a logical and consistent message which explains the human condition and the solution. I studied honors history at Purdue. I can assure you as a trained historian that what can be historically verified in the Bible via archaeology or outside literary sources, has indeed been shown to be reliable. The Bible is historically reliable. The miraculous claims made in the Bible regarding miracles and supernatural events cannot be proven any more than they can be disproven. Science has no room to comment on the supernatural; a miracle, by its very definition, is a temporary suspension of natural laws due to divine intervention. Saying that Jesus couldn’t walk on water because science has proven such an act impossible would be like saying a car cannot drive over 70 mph on the highway because the speed limit on that highway is 70 mph. Man’s observed laws do not dictate God’s actions or possible reality. I believe what the Bible says, God answers my prayers, and his laws have proven themselves to be to my benefit in the long run, even if they are not as enjoyable.

    Biblical, orthodox Christianity holds water, moreso than any other world religion. I know it is a bold claim but I have had many years of varied education to support such a bold claim.

    Before America had ever been involved in overseas military action Barbary pirates (from various nations in Northern Africa) were attacking and enslaving American merchants in the Mediterranean. Thomas Jefferson and John Adams met with Tripoli’s envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman, to discuss an end to paying tribute to the Muslim pirates for naval safety. Jefferson wrote of the meeting:

    “We took the liberty to make some enquiries concerning the ground of their pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury, and observed that we considered all mankind as our friends who had done us no wrong, nor had given us any provocation. The Ambassador [of Tripoli] answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (muslims) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise”

    This anti-American terrorism was occurring as early as the 1780’s although the meeting occurred in 1786. It is a historical fact that Muhammad’s early following assisted him in the conversion of local Arab tribes via military action. Mecca was conquered by Muhammad’s forces. Islam’s explosive spread in the early years was a result of continued military action and negotiation encouraged by large Muslim forces. Many who rejected Muhammad were enslaved or killed. I have read the verses which promote peace in the Qur’an, but the facts speak for themselves. I respect peaceful Muslims as well as I respect all peaceful persons, and God commands me to love all people because God has made us all in his image and human life is precious. This fact aside, Islam gained strength and larger followings as a result of violent military conquest. Early in history, Muslim nations openly admitted to using the Qur’an to justify unprovoked violence against other nations. Islamic terrorists are as active today as ever.

    Whether or not the Qur’an should/could be used to promote violence is not the issue. The issue is that it most definitely is used to justify violence, and not always in self-defense.

    Ben, I understand. It is the same way with Christianity- “Christians” who hold hate rally’s against homosexuals at military funerals are not Christians at all. But again, my post is still pertinent to your response. They claim to be Muslims. There are lots of them. They use the same text and teachings that true Muslims do. The defect is not in kind, peaceful, and sensible Muslim people. The defect is in Qutbism and Muhammad’s contradictory and easily misinterpreted teachings. There are other contributing factors of course but it is what it is.

    Finally,

    Jesus Christ came to earth and lived a sinless life on our behalf. We are enslaved to our own desires; we ignore God and what we know to be right. We suppress inconvenient truth. For every sin we have ever committed, Jesus didn’t. He was crucified unjustly for claiming to be God Himself. He died, was buried, and was raised to life by God the Father after three days. He appeared to many, he promised that all who believe in his life and his ability to save those who depend on him for salvation will be saved from God’s wrath. He promised that he will return.
    If you think God could exist, pray and ask him to help you. Ask Jesus to reveal his peace and mercy to you. Evil is real. We need Jesus.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +40 (from 76 votes)
  13. To Andrew
    It is quite amazing how you claim that you studied history, the Qur’an, philosophy and world religions. …etc, and yet your only reference is Goolge search engine, which, academically speaking, has no value, and that “does rouse my suspicions.”
    I think you need more than Jesus.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: -33 (from 77 votes)
  14. All people and groups have to justify violence. The easy way out is through twisting word around in the worlds Holy Books.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 10 votes)
  15. Everyone has questions, but what do we do about it, we ask uneducated peaple , people change scripture to make it fit their lives instead of allowing the scripture to change their lives,if you truly want to know the truth, pray, and read the “holy” books, all of them, the torah the bible(which includes torah, and the Qur an, I have read them all and trust me the truth will come to be understood

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +3 (from 11 votes)
  16. Explain the QURAN and it’s use by the TALIBAN, The Muslim Brotherhood, Hezzbollah, Iranian Policies, The Palastinians and the other “Islamic” hate groups. And don’t obfuscate with politics and culture. Explain how their religion of peace allows them to kill innocent children amongst others. Explain how they can use their religion of peace to substantiate their actions.

    Just explain the above. And remember silence is not only consent it is approval.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +13 (from 35 votes)
  17. @ Andrew

    “In American Christianity misinterpretation tends to result in differing theological opinions, not suicide bombings, hijackings, and ransoms. ”

    No you’re right. It tends to manifest itself as the invasion of a country which has not threatened it under false pretenses, resulting in 109,032 deaths including 66,081 civilian deaths.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: -1 (from 29 votes)
  18. I do not believe in judging any person or their religion. There will always be a religion that is the most violent. If there were no Muslims then another religion would be next in line. When the English were expanding a few centuries ago Christianity was used to justify their slaughter of mankind. I would be very curious to know which religion is responsible for the most deaths in all of history. One thing for sure is that most all religions do have blood on their hands. Religion is a creation of man and flawed by his nature. Listening to another mans interpretation of scriptures often confuses truth. God, Allah, Budda or whatever you you want to call our lord and creator he has a spirit that dwells within all of us. We all have the one and only true god living in our heart and soul. This is where the you will find the way to paradise. Violence, hostility and aggression in any form is a fools path. Most every religion that I am aware of especially the Muslims teach that dying for your beliefs will get you into heaven. None say killing will. Have love and goodwill for everyone, even those in the grip of evil. Be good to others always. Let God be the judge never try to do it yourself.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +5 (from 17 votes)
  19. Ben

    I Read you’re reply and thought that you summarised Islam very clearly. I’m a very proud Muslim and my religion has taught me peace. It’s politics that teaches violence. Never in my life have I been told to hate non-Muslims or Muslims. Those who commit acts like suicide bombing are going against our religion by doing so as Islam prohibits suicide itself. And just to put context to this Muslim, non- Muslim argument, in the case of 9/11 which was supposedly done by people who called themselves Muslim, there were many Muslims killed in that attack to. I know someone who is Muslim and lost her only son in that. If those people were Muslim they would have considered the fact that many Muslims would be in those buildings when they attacked.

    I mean no personal attack but I just wanted to say that Islam does not teach violence.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +7 (from 25 votes)
  20. I think people need to all realize how one can take anything and everything out of context and make it look bad. Society does this all the time, the biggest are the examples are the media and how they twist stories and statements to help express an opinion.

    People need to also know the importance of interpretation and how the smallest misinterpretation can make the biggest difference. Example are the many christian faiths and how most use the bible as their scripture but interpret it very differently. I don’t mean to offend but i believe muslims do this too, examples are the Sunni and Shi’a in their interpretations of the Hadith and other works. I think what a good portion of non muslims hear about, are the muslims who interpret Jihad as the physical struggle between themselves and non believers resulting in suicide bombings and multiple attacks on not only non believers but those who don’t understand or agree with what they do, this includes Muslims!

    I don’t think on can scrutinize another religion without realizing all the different form of that religion and the different ways of interpreting what they believe in and teach. It’s like making a comment towards a christian about a scripture and they can have such a drastically different view on it, then another christian. How about we stop making ignorant accusations about others and try learning more about them, what they believe in and why.
    regarding violence i don’t think we can point a finger at any single religion, yes there are many deaths today that can or can’t be attributed to Islam and these are the ones at the front of our minds because of the attention they receive due to the media and it’s bias views, but if you look at history christianity was just about bloody if not more…(probably more i.e. crusades).

    I respect all religions and whether i disagree or not, i try to understand more fully why they believe what they do, and i don’t try to force my opinions on them regarding what i disagree with. Im a christian and I don’t believe any religion to fully endorse violence or else it wouldn’t be a popular religion. But i do believe that there are sects among religions that do.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +2 (from 8 votes)
  21. Hi everyone. I’ve read through most of the comments and I like the mature way this discussion has gone. In my struggle to understand Islam, I would appreciate it if someone could please explain the more ‘violent’ verses in the Qu’ran? I get that anything can be misinterpreted/twisted to one’s own interests, but at face value even the passages shown in the main answer (al-Baqarah 2:190-194 etc), I really can’t see any other way of understanding it than in a violent way. I wish this wasn’t as it is, but I fail to see how it can be interpreted peacefully. Most muslims’ arguments against such verses is that it is taken out of context, etc. but even if it isn’t, I just can’t see it being peaceful.

    Even al-Isra’ 17:33, isn’t it blatantly condoning killing? And yes it says for a ‘just cause’ but this can be interpreted in so many different ways, and just the fact that a holy text condones any killing at all is sure to cause problems, and I don’t get how you can argue around that? Also by my understanding the ‘just cause’ here would be in order to convert non-Muslims? Please tell me if I am wrong. The point of comparison is in the Bible, and esp. the New Testament, where it is impossible to say that Jesus condoned any kind of killing of any people.

    Thank you for helping me to understand.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +16 (from 24 votes)
    • Matt,
      Thought the authenticity of the bible is questionable, especially the New Testament, but let accept it as authentic.
      If a heavenly book fails to be realistic in its laws then we will end up having two choices; either to come up with laws that suit and regulate our society, or follow what that heavenly book says regardless of its contents.
      But the New Testament with some of its teachings failed to convince Christians, common sense and even the popes. Take for example Crusades campaigns blessed by successive popes and the Catholic churches, and if we to say that their campaigns were justifiable against Muslims, then why they ended up killing most of the Jews in the holy land? If you go through History even the modern one you will find out that Christians have been involved in so many wars causing the death of millions. No one can say that all of those who fought died for nothing, and how can we say that about someone who died defending his land, his family and his honour.
      So you see the New Testament, in so many places, is detached from reality, and in fact it contradicts the Old Testament though both of which referred to as one Bible.

      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: -18 (from 26 votes)
  22. Anyone here who’s already made up their minds seem to be missing the entire second half of the response. When taken out of context the bible would “allow” Christians to kill parents and take their children. I’m a Christian but you must realize that the enemy is not Islam or the Quran. The enemy is those who misinterpret its meaning. Remember the Crusades? 300 years of Christians killing Muslims. All because they misinterpreted the Bible.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +7 (from 19 votes)
  23. Good conversation. We need another 500 million people to participate. From my prospective there is no intention to preach violence by either book. Men have managed to manipulate both in their attempts to support nefarious political agendas. Any peaceful Muslim is welcome in my house anytime. But
    call first its a mess! Peace.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +25 (from 29 votes)
  24. I have thoroughly enjoyed reading through these posts. Far too many posts of this nature become antagonistic and vicious. I find many of these posts to be informative and respectful.

    I am a Christian seeking to understand the violence between Christians and Muslims. I am glad to say that I have been fortunate to know quite a few peaceful Muslims, however as friends, we make a point not to debate religion. (I really prefer faith in God and Jesus Christ over the politics of organized religion anyway).

    Please set me on the right track if I misunderstand. After quite a bit of reading, I think I may have drawn some reasonable conclusions, but please feel free to correct me where I may be misguided.

    From what I understand, the violence stems from extremists (in most religions), misunderstanding, and generalizations. Extremists are, and have been manipulating religious texts to serve their agenda for centuries.

    I know very little about the Quran, so I cannot give direct quotes, but I believe there are verses that allow for interpretations for violence in the way of retaliation. These appear to be written for a very specific context in a very specific situation in the past. I think that Islamic extremist view these verses as a way to retaliate against Christians for the crusades that happened hundreds of years ago and for political wars. This is an excuse used to commit terrorist attacks. Again, these are extremists, NOT ALL MUSLIMS. also, from what I gather, Islamic extremists believe that because Americans elect our politicians, we are all guilty of the decisions that our politicians make. Thus, the extremists believe that when they commit violence that we consider acts of terror, in their minds, they are holding the guilty accountable. ( as said in the “Letter to America” by Usama Bin Laden)

    At the same time, many Christians use terrorist attacks like 9/11 and the Boston Bombings to generalize that all Muslims are violent. This is an unfair and flawed assumption as well.

    I hope I was able to present these ideas respectfully.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +5 (from 11 votes)
  25. If we are striving for accuracy here, let’s revisit the New Testament in context and read Luke 19:1-27. I think this will shed a little more light. While Christians can’t and won’t deny the Old Testament, the Quran and Hadith offer verses that are in the present mindset of both books. The “verses of violence” can be found here: http://reallifeandtheword.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-qurans-verses-of-violence.html

    Also, from your own examples of “non murder” found in your verses above, it’s important to note that the portion “which Allah has made sacred” applies to those converted to Islam. To everyone else, they face conversion at the point of a sword.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +12 (from 26 votes)
  26. m’ashallah thank u for proving quran is not violent to those who say it is. i have non muslim friends like athiests, hindus, christan, jewish, etc. and i respect their faith and beliefs i am happy that they accepted me for who i am as a muslim. i have never harmed a non muslim and will never do so.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 12 votes)
  27. Hello, I realize that this post was made quite a while ago, but I hope that someone can help me on this. I am working on my thesis for my undergraduate degree in Religion on this subject, which religion (Christianity or Islam) has more textual v. traditional justification for violence. Is there anyone (person or website) you would recommend for interpretation of different surahs on violence? I am desperately trying to avoid unintentional malicious translations, or translations out of context.

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 4 votes)
  28. I think the reason the muslim world is acting in this way now
    can be related to the fact that poverty and a lack of opportunity in many parts of the world has created greater anger and resentment of people and these organisations like the muslim brotherhood manipulate and use this anger to carry out their own agendas and like how hitler used jews as scapegoat, they are doing the same. Although i can understand why people would buy into this as it has been almost a constant form of western intervention and imperialism in these countries since the collapse of the ottoman empire and so it is understandable how they have drawn the conclusion that their current misfortunes and instability is due to the mess made by constant western intervention. In addition to this many in the west hold a hostile attitude to many muslims and hence why this has further created hostility between the two groups

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +2 (from 14 votes)
  29. That’s not truth no one respects or care for no one you can see it everyday and just because they don’t make noise or claim attacks don’t mean Christians are saints.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: -4 (from 4 votes)
  30. What a great questions and a great replies. As for me, whatever religion we had, respect to each other is the most important. PEACE is the best and powerful shield that we can give to each one of us. There are certain people who is creating only a fight between individual religion just only for talk of the town. If we can avoid badly doing on every side, I can say God / Allah will be more than glad and he will give us more blessings. I’m a Christian and I read the Quran more than once, those books are holy and we need to understand what God / Allah wants as to do. So in short why not have a PEACE and LOVE to each other, avoid destroying each other.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +6 (from 8 votes)
  31. In Luke 19:26, Jesus was telling a parable or a story about a nobleman saying that, he wasn’t saying that people should be slain before himself. This is OUT OF CONTEXT. Shame on you.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +8 (from 12 votes)
  32. Hi, I am a Christian and also love this discussion and how informative this is.. However one thing to note is that while the old and new testaments are part of one Bible, they represent 2 different scenario. One is with sin and the other is after sin was taken away, the immediate punishment of God in the old testament and the infinite grace he gave after Jesus has died for our sins In the new.

    Given my limited knowledge, all I know is that both Christians and non Christians alike has proven that the Bible is historically sound (read http://www.bibleproofbook.com and The Case for Christ). If that is the case, the only reason for infinite grace is Jesus. Because we definitely still sin, so there is no other reason for a just God to cease immediate punishment if Jesus has not washed our sins away… Jesus would not be able to wash of sin away if not for the fact that he is the Son of God.

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +3 (from 7 votes)
  33. CONCEPT OF GOD IN BIBLE / CHRISTIANITY:

    =======================================================
    The Mission of Jesus Christ (pbuh) – to Fulfill the Law
    =======================================================

    Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity for himself. He clearly announced the nature of his mission. Jesus (pbuh) was sent by God to confirm the previous Judaic law. This is clearly evident in the following statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in the Gospel of Mathew:

    “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    “Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”

    “For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.”
    [The Bible, Mathew 5:17-20]

    ========================================
    The First Commandment is that God is One
    ========================================

    The Bible does not support the Christian belief in trinity at all. One of the scribes once asked Jesus (pbuh) as to which was the first commandment of all, to which Jesus (pbuh) merely repeated what Moses (pbuh) had said earlier:

    “Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adonai Ikhad.”

    This is a Hebrew quotation, which means:

    “Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord.”
    [The Bible, Mark 12:29]

    It is striking that the basic teachings of the Church such as Trinity and vicarious atonement find no mention in the Bible. In fact, various verses of the Bible point to Jesus’ (pbuh) actual mission, which was to fulfill the law revealed to Prophet Moses (pbuh). Indeed Jesus (pbuh) rejected any suggestions that attributed divinity to him, and explained his miracles as the power of the One True God.

    Jesus (pbuh) thus reiterated the message of monotheism that was given by all earlier prophets of Almighty God.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    ================================
    CONCEPT OF GOD IN OLD TESTAMENT:
    ================================
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ===========
    God is One:
    ===========

    The following verse from the book of Deuteronomy contains an exhortation from Moses (pbuh):

    “Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adna Ikhad”.
    It is a Hebrew quotation which means:
    “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord”
    [The Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4]

    ==================================
    Unity of God in the Book of Isaiah
    ==================================

    The following verses are from the Book of Isaiah:

    (i)

    “I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.”
    [The Bible, Isaiah 43:11]

    (ii)

    “I am Lord, and there is none else, there is no God besides me.”
    [The Bible, Isaiah 45:5]

    (iii)

    “I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me.”
    [The Bible, Isaiah 46:9]

    ==========================================
    Jesus Christ (pbuh) never claimed Divinity
    ==========================================

    The following statements in the Bible are attributed to Jesus Christ (pbuh):

    (i) “My Father is greater than I.”
    [The Bible, John 14:28]

    (ii) “My Father is greater than all.”
    [The Bible, John 10:29]

    (iii) “…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God….”
    [The Bible, Mathew 12:28]

    (iv) “…I with the finger of God cast out devils….”
    [The Bible, Luke 11:20]

    (v) “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.”
    [The Bible, John 5:30]

    ======================
    God Sent Jesus’ (pbuh)
    ======================

    The Bible mentions the prophetic nature of Jesus (pbuh) mission in the following verses:

    (i)

    “… and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.”
    [The Bible, John 14:24]

    (ii)

    “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou has sent.”
    [The Bible, John 17:3]

    ==========================================================
    Jesus Refuted even the Remotest Suggestion of his Divinity
    ==========================================================

    Consider the following incident mentioned in the Bible:

    “And behold, one came and said unto him, ‘Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?’

    And he said unto him, ‘Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.’ ”
    [The Bible, Mathew 19:16-17]

    Jesus (pbuh) did not say that to have the eternal life of paradise, man should believe in him as Almighty God or worship him as God, or believe that Jesus (pbuh) would die for his sins. On the contrary he said that the path to salvation was through keeping the commandments. It is indeed striking to note the difference between the words of Jesus Christ (pbuh) and the Christian dogma of salvation through the sacrifice of Jesus (pbuh).

    ================================================
    Jesus (pbuh) of Nazareth – a Man Approved of God
    ================================================

    The following statement from the Bible supports the Islamic belief that Jesus (pbuh) was a prophet of God.

    “Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know.”
    [The Bible, Acts 2:22]

    ===================================
    Old Testament condemns idol worship
    ===================================

    (i)

    Old Testament condemns idol worship in the following verses:

    “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”

    “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:”

    “Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God.”
    [The Bible, Exodus 20:3-5]

    (ii)

    A similar message is repeated in the book of Deuteronomy:

    “Thou shalt have none other gods before me.”

    “Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that in the earth beneath, or that is in the water beneath the earth.”

    “Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them; for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God.”
    [The Bible, Deuteronomy 5:7-9]

    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: -4 (from 14 votes)

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *